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From: "Steve Strickland" 
Subject: Re: (urth) Re: [urth] Why I don't like TBOTSS
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:52:10 -0500

TBOTSS is my favorite of all Wolfe's works.  Though I can't claim to have
solved every mystery the books have to offer, I don't think the "grand
design" is nearly as difficult to grasp as some of the posts claim.  I can't
even begin to describe how rewarding these titles have been for me.

I cast my vote in favor of the SS.

Steve Strickland

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Ansley" 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: (urth) Re: [urth] Why I don't like TBOTSS

> At 11:20 PM +0100 5/25/02, Andy Robertson wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Allan Lloyd
> >
> >>     Is it just me feeling particularly grumpy tonight, or does everyone
> >else feel that
> >>  these are justified ways of provoking thought and reflection on a
> >
> >
> >It's just you feeling grumpy.  ;-)
> >
> >No.  I can see it.   I have even had the experience of reading the SS
> >and having it come out like that.  They are hard books to read and they
> >a lot of effort, continual effort, to read.
> >
> >     hartshorn
> I agree with Allan. I didn't care for the Short Sun books and I still
> Andy Robertson, in his passage above, suggests I have not put enough
> effort into reading the books. This may be true. In fact, it is very
> likely.
> But writing is a two way street; I expect to get some kind of return
> for the effort I put into reading something, some kind of
> satisfaction. I have gotten that from most of what Gene Wolfe has
> written, enough, at least, so that I feel that I was part of a fair
> exchange. (And in many cases, the return I have gotten from reading
> Wolfe's work was much more than fair.) But I don't feel that way with
> the Short Sun books. They seem a bit slip shod, between mysteries
> being piled on mysteries and the seemingly unnecessary shoe-horning
> of the Urth of the Old Sun into the final volume. It may be that I am
> totally missing the grand design. But if that's the case I doubt I
> will ever see it; I am not likely to re-read the series.
> Of course, someone on this list could post a revelatory message that
> makes me see the light, but I haven't been convinced by any attempts
> so far.
> --
> William Ansley
> --


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